With them or to them. We ask them, “What do you want to do about it?”. A veteran speaking to a veteran. Helping a brother or sister through that process. Now with that said, has there been improvement because of what Next Chapter is doing? So it would be easy for me to claim that Next Chapter the reason for the outcome. But again this wellness collaborative is a part of the community response and it’s a community response that we’ve now expanded into Pueblo county. In 2021 we had that staggering statistic of 52 lives. That represented about thirty two percent of all suicide that’s in El Paso County. So the math is simple. You know, 1 in every 3 individuals that take their lives is a veteran. In the first 6 months that we operated, we reduced the # of actual veteran lives lost in El Paso county. And we reduced that portion of the overall suicide rate from about 32% to 25%.